Lap Bar Lessons
Welcome to Lap Bar Lessons! The theme park podcast that trades polished corporate reviews for the chaotic, hilarious energy of a friends' group chat. Every Monday, join a panel of veteran theme park enthusiasts for an unfiltered look at park culture, vacation budgeting, and corporate politics.
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Ep 7 - Apologizing To Harold For Cutting In Line With Petrie & Elsa's Facelift!
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Ace and Josh finally return for a late-night recorded episode. We roast Rock ‘n’ Roller Coaster’s Muppets makeover, mourn Disney’s Dinosaur ride going extinct, swap Jurassic River Adventure war stories, debate Tron vs. Hagrid, Ace spill line-cutting confessions (sorry Harold), does something unhinged much to Sahm’s disgust, and we even reminisce on our dear pal Petrie, hope things are well for you bud. We alap share an hilarious insider story about the lengths it took to finally get Frozen Ever After’s Animatronic the face’s they deserved.
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Intro & Late Night Return
SahmAnd we're back. It's been a minute since we've been here, at least us personally in our lives, to you guys. It's just another week. But we are back. And we are here with me, the host today. Josh. And my Don't say it like that. Not the host this time.
AceI'm tired.
SahmHe's tired.
AceIt's March 11th, where we're currently recording, and it's 11:30 at night. So I'm just a little sleepy.
SahmAnd I'm not. Welcome back to what are we called now?
AceYou forgot our name.
SahmJust kidding. Lap Bar Lessons.
AceDude, I was about to f you up.
SahmLanguage.
AceNo. Not tonight. Tonight we're uncensored.
SahmWell, you sh I wish it.
AceLive on live on X.
SahmJesus. What are you doing over there?
AceHe's probably he's probably censoring me out, anyways.
SahmNope. We're so going. We're so going.
AceA potty mouth flag. It's so good to be back. Welcome back to the pod, guys.
SahmYeah, a lot of things. I don't want to say a lot of things.
AceI'll go ahead and say it, dude. It's just life.
The Muppets Are Taking Over Rock N Rollercoaster!
SahmI mean, life, no, I'll talk about the coaster world. Not a lot of developments.
AceOh, yeah, no, screw what I'm saying. You're right.
SahmNot a lot of developments. I mean, uh Dinosaur, the dinosaur ride closed down. Oh, I can talk about that forever. The um American roller coaster shutdown. The what? The the roller coaster. The the rock the rock the Aerosmith ride.
AceOh, the Rock and Roller Coaster? Rock and Roller Coaster. What are you okay? This is a good thing to start this off with, actually. Okay. For our listeners, in case you forgot. I I'm the one that's been to Disney. I'm not flexing that. It's just a thing. Josh hasn't yet. I'm curious. What are your thoughts about as somebody that hasn't ridden Rock and Roller Coaster? What are your thoughts on these news? What what how does this sound to you as somebody who's hearing an Aerosmith themed ride is being re-themed to the Muppets? How's that sound to you on surface level?
SahmUm on surface level is probably a good idea.
AceAre you aware of the Muppets Land closing? You got all the T on that?
SahmI believe so, yeah.
AceSo yeah, like right o a land just right over on that. Yeah. The Muppets Land. They had a little they had a little 3D show, Muppet Vision. It was pretty cool, dude. It was fun. Um this was like one of their very first attempts at actually working with Jim Henson in the parks. From what I understand, I could be wrong on that. But from what I understand, and you know, we we have we have our sources. Sometimes they're correct, sometimes they're not. We just go off of what we hear.
SahmExcept my sources.
AceApparently. Yeah. Ethan, cut that out. Um, with apparent I I think I think it's a licensing thing. I think they're losing the licensing on Aerosmith.
SahmIt's either they're losing or they didn't want to resign it. It was one of those two.
AceDude, I'm gonna tell you right now, I'm sure a lot of 10-year-olds these days do not know who Aerosmith are. Half the reason our generation knew who Aerosmith was, unless you played guitar or was following classic rock music, you knew who Aerosmith was because of Guitar Hero and Disney World.
SahmWell, I didn't know I didn't know Aerosmith was at Disney World until like recently.
AceDid you know them from Guitar Hero?
SahmUh no.
AceSo you had a family that followed rock and roll?
SahmUh, I guess, yeah.
AceI grew up in the suburbs, dude. These kids listened to rap. They had no idea who Aerosmith was. They sucked.
SahmYeah, I think I think I randomly heard I Don't Wanna Miss You, Babe. Whatever that song's called. And that was it. That's how I found out by Aerosmith.
AceI know our beautiful producer was listening to Aerosmith, though. Yeah, I know he's a real one. Oh. Put a flag there. We can't have me singing in there. I sang Aerosmith. So yeah, it's a the ride starts at, I'm pretty sure, a 60-mile launch.
SahmYeah, it was the fastest ghoster at Disney. No, no, it's not.
AceI think it still is. I don't think anything's faster. It's I don't think Tron's faster than that.
SahmIt's not. It's
Tron or Hagrid
Sahmnot.
AceI've ridden Tron three times. It doesn't, it's it's kind of mid. It's it's fun. Look.
SahmPeople trying to say that right better than Hagrid.
AceLook, I'm whoa, hold on. Chill.
SahmThat's an opinion of someone that we both follow.
AceDude, this is gonna sound so disrespectful. I'm I'm willing to suffer the consequences on this. I think if you're 45 years old and you've never ridden a roller coaster, I think Tron is the coolest thing you'll ever ride. Yeah. But if you're also 45, you know what? Let's not discriminate against age. If you're just if you're not a coaster person and you've ridden Hagrid's and then you ride Tron, I just I think you're straight bugging if you think Tron was better than Hagrid. Tron Tron's got good lights.
SahmYeah.
AceTron has really good lights.
SahmIf I tell you whose opinion I who has that opinion, bro, you're gonna be sad.
AceNo, tell me.
SahmIt's it's it's a creator we both follow.
AceUh we can bleep him out. Who is it?
SahmAndrew Platt.
AceReally?
SahmYeah.
AceNo way, dude. Really?
SahmYeah.
AceHuh. So I think the whole gimmick with Hagrid is that a lot of a lot of theme park enthusiasts will complain about how they took a lot of really good flashy gimmicks from a bunch of other rides and put all of them into one ride. That's also why it's a technical nightmare.
SahmWhat, Hagrid's?
AceYes. So like the drop.
SahmYeah, very good. For Bolton. Yeah.
AceUh spike. The vertical spike. Yeah. Uh, you know what? I I can't even reference what coaster it is, but that's also a coaster that something already put it this way, some somebody already did a lot of the flashy things that Haggard's doing. But with Tron, there's not a lot of people that are positioned on the way in Tron that I is am I could I understand what you're saying, but Tron's also like a minute long. I'm not gonna gatekeep. You're right. It is, it's very short.
SahmIf that ride was like a minute, minute and a half longer, we're talking, we're we're probably talking about a fantastic ride. But I also can't really speak because I haven't personally ridden the thing, but you know, based on just what I'm based on like POVs I've seen, the track length, and the fact that I'm not the biggest like into Tron, like I'd ever watch any of the movies or anything like that. Like Kingdom Hearts 2 is my only exposure to Tron.
AceBut yeah,
Jurassic Park River Adventure Stories
Aceso the dinosaur ride closed.
SahmIt did.
AceAlright, so let's let's talk about that. Shout out to Universal for being ballers and saying we still have dinosaurs. Amazing. Love them.
SahmLove them for that.
AceEthan. When I took you to Universal, we we went on we went on Jurassic Park River Adventure, right? We did.
SahmThat's the water one.
AceThe only one with the T-Rex. Was it closed?
SahmThat ride. You have you have ride for you have time for that ride.
AceNo, when we went, it was like an hour wait.
SahmThat's crazy.
AceFor River Adventure, this is just veteran speaking here. For me personally, I think an hour is a waste of time for River Adventure. If you're a Jurassic Park slash Jurassic World fan and you've never done it, oh my god, please do it. It's so awesome. But if you don't like getting wet, you're gonna hate it. I don't know how I got you even on that, Red. I really don't even know how I got you on that. This is kind of fun. By the way, I don't know if anybody's picked this up yet. We don't have a lot of news yet. We're just gonna talk.
SahmYeah, we're just we're just talking today.
AceWe've uh for you guys, it's like a week later, but for us it's been almost a month. Yeah. So we're just kind of getting back in the groove of things.
SahmThe groove. Um but yeah, you convinced me again on that one because you're like, uh, you know, your chances of getting wet are like kind of low. Like it's 50-50. I was like, I'm gonna take that.
AceI don't think I said 50-50.
SahmYou know what I mean. Um
Shuttle Tips!
Sahmanswer it. Okay, sure.
AceLet's let's get it on live.
SahmYeah, what's up? Well, you're watching Yeah, what's up? You're watching Kat Williams. What's up? Yeah.
Sahm's MomYou've gotta be called.
SahmOkay, I I hear you.
AceCan I say hi to her?
SahmYep, up. Alex says hi. Thanks. We're literally, we're literally we're live. We're live right now.
AceYou wanna say hi?
SahmI don't know, I don't know. I don't know the mics. The mic's gonna pick that up.
AcePut her up here. Put her up here. Have her say hi.
Sahm's MomYeah, I'm watching Cat Williams right now, where I want to hear and make fun of everybody. I need it.
SahmOkay.
Sahm's MomThanks for answering. Love you.
SahmLove you too. Bye, bye.
AceBye.
SahmAlright. You know, when mom calls, you gotta answer, you know what I mean? But yes, no, you're too you got you convinced me to go on river adventure because there was a chance I wasn't gonna get it wet, and I didn't know what my odds were, but I was taking the mods. And the first time it was fine.
AceDidn't I take we walk we talked to one of the ride guys, right?
SahmAnd then No, this was no the first time we didn't talk to a ride guy, really. The second one, when we went when we went for my birthday, we rode it like back to back. We we talked to the guy.
AceI remember I I remember saying, Yeah, look, the guys will even give you the reassurance. Talk to the ride conductor, they'll tell you it really just depends on where you sit. We went up to that guy and he just went, it doesn't matter where you sit, you're gonna get wet.
SahmYeah, I was like, all right. I also waved. He's like, oh, hey, hey, wait a minute. I also did wave at the guy up in the box and he waved back.
AceWell, he was probably busy. He's probably working.
Sahm's MomYeah.
AceJust gonna interrupt him while he's working. He's trying to keep you safe.
SahmIt was before we launched.
AceNo, he's being friendly. No, he's launching.
SahmI also I also waved at the person in the box when I rode Raptora. He waved back.
AceHe he's very busy telling me. He's very busy telling you to put a flag there.
SahmYou haven't finished both of those? I thought I thought I thought you had already done one. I didn't know you were on your side.
AceOkay. He was also probably very busy telling people to stop taking pictures of the sign at the beginning of the ride.
SahmYeah.
AceIf you've never ridden the ride, don't be surprised if when you're entering that grand entrance at the beginning of the ride where it's like, welcome to Jurassic Park. Hold on, you can't sing that, dude. We might get copy striked. He just sang the theme. There's so many times where I'm just checking myself so I don't say anything ignorant. People. I didn't specify anything. I didn't Josh is losing it. I didn't say anything. I said people.
SahmEw people.
AceEw people. For our active listeners, in case you forgot, we saw that we saw the Grinch. We saw the Grinch shirt that said ew people and we love it. It's our favorite thing. It's our favorite thing.
SahmI tried fun once. I hated it. I had fun once. I'm gonna get it next time we go.
AceBut you'll get on you'll get on that ride. You'll get on the Jurassic Park ride. Is that still rolling? It is. You'll get on the Jurassic Park ride, and right when you get to that entrance where it's going, Welcome to Jurassic Park, usually that audio gets cut out from a ride conductor going, please put the cell phones away.
SahmYeah, because people are trying to record with their phones on the water ride.
AceI don't know why I thought I was slick. Do you remember when we went on with Andrew and I put my hat on before the drop for some reason? Yeah, I don't know why I did. I just thought that was a good time to do it. And right before we dropped, they were like, please take the hat off. And I was like, sorry, I'm sorry.
SahmYeah, and then we got splashing wet because of you.
AceNot because of me.
SahmRoberta was Roberta saw. Roberta saw. And she knew.
AceRoberta spared us the first time. Roberta spared us the first time, and then we went, let's go again. And then, well, not too much.
SahmI was down for it. And then and then we got drenched. Like I got hit with like two waves. I'm like, ah, alright.
AceUh what time are we at, Ethan? No, not what the no, how much time? How long have we been on the air recording? Told me what time it was. It's like it's 1155. Really? That's it.
SahmDamn, it's feel like it's feel like it's a lot of things.
AceIt's so long. We have so much stuff to talk about, I think.
SahmOh, that's much better. God, we have so much to talk about. We can just make it 30. No. Okay. Alright, guys, here you have us for another forty-six minutes.
AceIf anybody is working right now, thank you for choosing us to entertain you. We'll do our best.
SahmYou will.
AceI will. I'm just here. I want to go to bed.
SahmAnd I want to ride Velocicoaster again.
Musk Tunnels & Park Tangents
AceGod, I'll let that ride. Let's go right now. I wish. You think I won't? Man. Alright, so have you heard of these Musk tunnels? What's going on with that? I don't know much about it. What? Elon Musk tunnels. This is a universal Oh. It's the it's the Tesla ride.
SahmYeah. Yeah. Cyber trucks are like the the the vehicles the ride vehicles.
AceThe enemy is ketamine. Ah, watch out for the ketamine that's coming after you. That might be inappropriate, anyways.
SahmOh god.
AceApparently he's br apparently Elon Musk's, one of his companies. Don't quote me on this. I gotta stop saying that. I still gotta start doing my research.
SahmYeah, because I have no idea what you're talking about.
AceHe's he is in the everyone's saying the Musk tunnels. He's in charge of these new this new transportation system that's gonna get everybody from Epic Universe to the regular parks.
SahmOh, I have seen about that. I didn't know Mr. Mu Mr. Musk was behind it.
AceMm-hmm. Yes, anyways.
SahmYeah, uh, yeah. Apparently it takes an hour and a half to walk from Epic Universe to the other two parks.
AceAn hour and a half?
SahmYeah. I watched uh TikTok someone doing it. By the way, it was seven miles, I think.
AceIf you if you've gone to the parks already or are a first-time traveler and just need to get around, Ubers are quicker, but you can hop on a bus. That was always there. People forget that, but seriously, you can just get on a bus and it'll take you to each park and City Walk. And here's my here's my fun uncle tip of the day. If you're staying at any Orlando property, uh well, almost almost any Orlando hotel. This is I'm gonna say this is like an 86% success rate. In fact, I'll put money on that. Most of those hotels will shuttle you to Orlando.
SahmYou're already in Orlando.
AceMost of those hotels will shuttle you to the park. Half the battle is getting up early enough to schedule the shuttle. And if you want to take the free shuttle, you just you gotta get up early, dude. You gotta get up at like seven or even six in the morning and get on that thing and get to the park. It's not gonna cost you any money, it'll cost you time.
SahmIf it don't cost money, it costs time. Always. That's always in fact.
AceGet used to that. All of our active listeners, get used to the idea of our law of equivalent of exchange. This is the official Lap Bar Lessons Law of Equivalent Exchange. It's very simple. If you're not spending time, you're spending money.
SahmIf you're not spending money, you're spending time. That's right.
AceAlways. Everything is either gonna cost you time or money in the theme park travel world. Get used to it quick.
SahmYeah, that was kind of sick. It was like Team Rocket, you know.
AceTeam Who? Who's that?
SahmPrepare for trouble.
AceNo thanks.
SahmMake a double.
AceNo, really, no thanks.
SahmOh my god, it's the guitar from the Aerosmith ride. No, it's not. That's an epiphone. Epipophat?
AceThis is what I get. I I tried to act like I was ignorant to Pokemon and then he acted ignorant to music, so I I des I deserve that one. Pretty sure Aerosmith does not play Epiphones. Ethan, fact check that. Don't clown me. Cut that out if they do play epiphones. Cut only if I'm wrong.
Sahm's MomThey're probably Gibson.
AceI think they're like super Gibson. Fact let's fact check it real quick. You fact check it.
SahmNo. Air Smith.
AceI don't want to miss a thing.
SahmHey, hey, Ethan. How how do guitarists call each other? Use their epiphones.
Literally What Is Your Problem?
AceGibson and Fender. I was right. No, it's an epiphone. No. No. Guitar joke, guys. Anyways. Anyone that's listening that plays guitar, I hope that was fun for you. So let's talk. I'm ready to talk about the dinosaur ride.
SahmOh yeah, we started talking about the dinosaur ride. And then we got sidetracked by Jurassic Park. Did we? Well, cause Dinothor!
AceWell, that's because Universal still has dinosaurs. Disney officially does not have dinosaurs.
SahmUh-huh. They don't got dinosaurs.
Sahm's MomYo.
AceI'm pretty sure the mics are gonna pick that up. Man, it's plucking away at the guitar. We got it. We got them all excited.
SahmWhat is your problem? Wait, what what we're we we're uncensored, right? We're uncensored? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Uncensored, right? Like I I can get I can I can I can get a couple flags in, right? Yeah, for now. Yeah, what the f is wrong with you? What what prompted you to do that, huh? It it would have been funny if you didn't just fing fart in my direction. Like you could have just turned turned other way. What is your problem? Are you 12? Are you 12? No, I'm tired.
AceWhat is your problem? Hold on, let's pause. Let's pause.
SahmOh my god.
AceReal quick. I just want to hear it.
SahmJust pause. I just pause it. I just want to hear it. All right. All right. Sorry, guys.
EthanFrom all the pesticides.
SahmYeah, we're in his brain out.
AceJesus Christ, man.
SahmLike Femigation squad just left. Like, hold on.
AceNo, be nice to me.
SahmNo, you don't deserve it. We just had to call like a 318 on you.
AceIn my defense, Ethan was plucking at the guitar, so I just started to pluck my ****
SahmWhat are you saying right now?
AceEthan, cut that out. I'm so serious. I'm so serious. Cut that out.
SahmDid you say ****
AceAce
I said pluck. Cut it out. God. I'm so excited about the dinosaur ride. Alright. We're just taking it.
SahmAre you deciding if you're gonna burp next?
AceNo, that's nasty. I would never do such a thing.
SahmI just hope you know that Ethan just gave you the nastiest eye eye.
AceGood. That's nasty.
SahmYeah, that's that's what's nasty. That's disgusting. Not farting into the microphone.
AceThat's disgusting.
SahmI hope I hope you I hope you're getting pink eye from your own mic right now.
AceYou are are you gaslighting me?
Sahm's MomYou already did that to yourself.
SahmYeah.
AceThis is so stupid. It was a good call. It was a good call, guys. I'm gonna fart.
SahmWell, yeah. That where I whatever goes on in your mind to where that correlates, bro. Like that's crazy. That's crazy to me.
AceHey, that's better than me fussing.
SahmFussing about what?
AceI don't know.
SahmWhatever it might be.
AceWe need to get you a mic. I hope that picked you up
Line Cutting Confessions (Sorry Harold)
Acesoon.
SahmOh my god. Bro, line cutters at Universal, bro?
AceYou just fart on all of them. Dude, I think I think.
SahmSo many people caught a line, cut like cut the line at like at Universal when we went. Like it was like obscure. Wait, what?
AceDid we actually have line cutters?
SahmDude, there's no way that all of them were, bro. There's no shot. Literally no way. As many people that were cutting that like throughout the throughout our visit, insane. It's like, no, you don't have family up there. You're just lying.
AceAlright. You know what? Since this is the unhinged episode, let's I I'm I'm okay with telling if I want to cut this out later, cut it out. Let's talk about the stories of when I've cut in line.
SahmOh, you're a pe you're you're a piece of garbage too. I was by myself.
AceI didn't care at the time, and I was younger. I know better now. I'm an adult.
SahmLike, were you a kid or a teenager?
AceLike two years ago.
SahmHow old are you right now? 30. Yeah. Yeah. You are part of the problem.
AceTrust me, I I had a valuable lesson each time.
SahmApparently not because you have more than one. I don't do it anymore.
Sahm's MomDid anyone say anything?
AceYeah. Oh yeah. Caught red-handed. Yeah, they called me right out. Good.
Sahm's MomStaff called you.
AceOkay, so look. In my defense, can't can I just defend myself?
Sahm's MomYeah, you can.
SahmYou can try.
AceWhat happened was, first of all, okay, look, I'm telling you. If you guys are my boys, you'll you're you're gonna Josh. I will crash the f out, dude. I will crash out.
SahmOh, Ethan can pluck a guitar, but I can't.
AceNo, he can't either.
SahmBut he did.
AceYou can't play Jordan on expert on acoustic.
SahmI do understand that reference.
AceGood. What was I talking about? Oh, I'm a piece of cut. Alright, so look, in my defense, and I'm telling you, if you guys are my boys, you're gonna be like, okay, valid. Okay. I was in line for Fast and Furious supercharged.
SahmAnd you didn't take the single rider?
AceBro, throw me a bone here. I was in line for Furious. And these guys were not moving. They were standing there going, ooh, auto parts. It's a rock of auto parts, my guy. You could go to Pet Boys and see the same thing in the freaking mechanic style. You don't need to see that at the music park. Move. So they're standing there just not moving. So I just went, I went around him. I went, alright, right? And as I'm walking, this guy says to his children, oh, watch out, guys. This guy's in a rush. So I immediately trying to be the good guy, I froze and just went, go ahead, man. It's not that serious. It's just Fast and Furious. It's really not that serious. I'm about to see Vin Diesel grab a helicopter. It's not that serious.
SahmA helicopter that he's like the same.
AceOh, I got you.
SahmYeah, a helicopter.
AceHe's the same size as now here's where I messed up. Here's where I messed up. It's hard for me to have a have an attitude when I'm at Universal, but I was a little irritated about that. Because they just kept stopping. And it's like, dude, there's people behind you. Alright, I'll go around you. Okay, maybe I made a bad call there. It's fine. Anyways, he went, Oh, watch out, guys. This guy's in a rush. So I just froze and I said, Go ahead, man. It's not that serious. He walked by me, and I'm paraphrasing, but I think I said something along the lines of this guy. Or something like that, right? Something like, oh, this guy. He turned around and went, What was that? And I just went, Oh no, nothing, man. Nothing. Nothing. And then he walked by, and I was just like, Yeah, it's not even worth it. I'm not even gonna walk around people. I'm just so that that was my story of quote unquote cutting.
SahmOkay.
AceImmediately the guy got an attitude about it. I was like, it's not worth it. It's just furious. I'm not I'm not gonna get kicked out of the park over that.
SahmGood old furious. Rest in peace.
AceUm, so when I was 12 and I was in the line for Jaws, listen, guys, I was 12. I trust me. When you're 12, when you're 12, you suck. Every 12-year-old sucks. Let's just agree on that, okay?
SahmYep.
AceI was 12.
SahmOkay.
AceI was going, hey Ma. Hey Ma. Hey, Ma, I'm walking through the line. Hey, I'm trying to get to my family member. There's no family member. I was just walking through. I was by myself, dude. Nobody was gonna call a little 12-year-old out. Well, this old guy, dude. This guy and his wife. Excuse me, young man. I don't think you're I don't think you're going to a family member. And I went, yes, I am. And then he went, where is he? And I was like, oh, he's getting on the ride. I need to get to him. And then he went over to a ride attendant, like, excuse me. This guy's cutting in line. And again, guys, this was like 2009. So the ride attendant went over and was just like, dude, he's just a kid, man. Relax. And then the wife was like, Yeah, Harold, it's really not a big deal. Like, it's just a kid. And then he he he really shrugged his shoulders, folded his arms, and went, all right, I guess he can just do what he wants. And you know what? Look, looking back at it now, like he was right. That man had every right to crash out over that. I was in the wrong. I was in the wrong there.
SahmSo I apologize to Harold.
AceI'm sorry, Harold. I don't think that was even his name. It's probably Richard. Whatever. No, you don't cut that out. That's the name. No, that's a name. It's a name. Yeah. It's a name, penis.
Sahm's MomThere it is.
AceI don't I think you could say penis on the radio.
SahmWait, which one are you talking about?
Sahm's MomOh my god.
AceAh, he said it! He said it. Put a flag. Put a flag for the flag. He said penis. You wanted to do this. You're taking my sleep away. Actually, I'm wrong. I wanted to do this. You know what? I'm sorry, Harold.
SahmWe have the option for Sunday. But Ethan never told us if he could or not. He just kind of was like, okay, guys, tonight.
AceSo the only other time I cut in line was at Halloween horror nights. Again, I was a I was a young kid. I didn't know any better. I was like 29. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Seriously, Josh, I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
SahmOkay.
AceHe doesn't believe me. Okay, I was like 25.
SahmOkay, there we go. There we go.
AceI was by myself. And look, just listen to this, listen to these stories and take these as lessons. Because at the end of the day, if you do stupid stuff like this, if a ride attendant or just a staff member sees you doing this, they will trespass you and kick you out. You can't do that. So don't do this. Seriously. It's not worth it, man. Just wait for the ride. Don't make me be unk. I will mansplain to everybody why we wait for all the good things. Don't make me do it. Good things come to those who wait. Anyways, I'm in the line. I'm just kind of slowly inching past people that are not moving. And this is like a two-hour wait line. So I'm just slowly inching past people. Well, wasn't a good idea. Eventually someone caught on. This guy just taps on my shoulder and he goes, hey guy, you might want to get the f behind us. I know what you're doing. And I was just like, oh, you know, I played stupid. I was just like, oh, man, whatever. And then he like just he just popped off on me. He was just like, can you believe this guy? He he had an attitude. He was not from Orlando. He clearly from the East Coast. I could, I could sniff it. He was just popping off. You know what was funny? He was like one guy with like six other chicks. And he was like the only guy popping off about it. And all the other chicks were just like, oh my god, Harold, it's not a big deal. So the reason I tell this story is because he called me out and I was like, hey, my bad. I'm sorry. Okay, alright. Caught red-handed. Fine. Sorry. Stood behind him. And then he just kept turning around and meme mugging me. Now I don't play with I don't play with that stuff. I'm not into that. I know I'm in the wrong here, whatever. The end of the day, it got to a point where I was just like, hey, dude, you can just keep walking. Maybe I maybe I started that. I don't know. But I just kind of was like, hey, you can keep walking, man. You don't gotta keep looking at me. Okay, I know what I did. He turns around and goes, Yeah, you gotta do something about it. Hi, you gotta do something about it, tough guy. Keep in mind, this guy was like five foot one.
SahmOh, was he Italian?
AceI don't think so. I don't think so. He's pretty I don't think he No, he was a short guy. He was literally like at my chest looking up at me going, Yeah, you wanna do something about a tough guy? And all the girls He was the only guy, dude. He was just he had he had to be the big guy, I guess. I don't know. He's doing all of this, and I swear to God, by the time he's doing all that, we were at like loading bay equivalent of the of the house. He kind of just chilled out and was just kind of like, okay, maybe I overreacted. By the time we finished the house and we got out of there, I'm walking past him, and he's looking at me, he's like, hey bro, don't never do that again. And I don't know why, but I was just like, kiss. I had enough of that guy.
SahmI had enough.
AceDon't be rude when you're out of park, just be polite. It's a lot easier to be polite. Again, I'm telling these stories because you don't want to behave that way. None of those stories I was in the right. I think the only thing I was in the right for was when Harold was overreacting. Because, dude, why are you overreacting? I'm just a kid. Like, it's just relaxed, dude. I'm getting on the that was the last time I wrote Jaws, by the way. He really was sicing it. Like, bro. Oh my god. We haven't done this in a couple weeks, and I was like nervous to do this. And of course, here we are on the mics, all natural again.
SahmYeah, farting into the mic.
AceI'll do it again.
SahmIf you do, the episode ends.
AceDon't threaten me with a good time.
SahmAnyways. Um, do we So the dinosaur ride? Yeah, it's like it's a dinosaur ride.
AceI said ask me questions about it, I'll answer them.
SahmSo, how do you feel about the dinosaur
Dinosaur Memories & My Dear Pal Petrie
Sahmride closing?
AceI feel how do I feel about it? Okay, so let's start with this. I had the wonderful opportunity to go to Disney World with one of my theater groups. Oh what? We gotta end the podcast now. I burped. I didn't do it in the mic. You should see how he's looking at me, guys. He's so dumb with me.
SahmI am as you're saying, you tell you a bunch of theater kids.
AceI had the wonderful opportunity of going to Disney World with my theater class from high school. Pretty pretty cool opportunity. I mean, expensive opportunity. I I had to save up a lot of money, and I had to I had to work hard at Wendy's to do that. I I worked so hard at Wendy's to go to Disney World, dude. It's not even funny. I literally was like, let me get a job, let me grind this money for Wendy's. Anyways, we went on over when we went over there. I had uh I had a little group I was hanging out with. Shout out to all those people. If any of them are somehow listening to this, you know who you are. I'm not gonna dox any of them though, because they were we're all pretty private people. Good people, good, good, good kids. They're all doing good stuff. Um, none of them are actors, by the way. None of them are acting anymore. Well, we rode dinosaur like twelve times in a row, and I have a picture of it. And you know what? Just for you two here, I'll go pull, I'll go grab that picture real quick just so you guys can see it. But here, tell tell tell the audience a little something while I go grab that picture real quick. This is fun. Good ride. We're gonna talk more about the ride.
SahmAlright, guys, we're gonna we're gonna uh leave we're gonna drop a poll after this episode drops of uh which host you like more, Alex or Josh. It is very important that you vote for me.
AceDude, it's a relic now.
Sahm's MomWow.
SahmDamn it on. What's up?
AceI have a photo frame from the dinosaur store from Disney World. It's now an ancient relic. Look at this. Look how fascinated I am with that ride.
SahmThe aeropostal like hoodie is bringing it all together.
AceWhat does that mean? I wore that to fit in. I was an emo kid.
SahmWhat year is this, by the way?
Ace2013.
SahmYeah, that's the same year Augman came out, bro, and you're wearing an arrow pastel hoodie.
AceAnd we're back real quick. Yo, Ethan. I wanna get this live. Come come over here. You're mo just make sure you cut his name out, okay? Alright, you see that kid there? Take a good look at him, okay? No laughing, Josh. You seen Lamb before time? No? You never seen Lamb before time? So you don't you don't know who Petrie is? This kid sitting in this chair. Cut his name out. I called him Petrie. From Land Before Time. And the worst part, you might have to cut this part out, this might be offensive. But he would go. He would like freak out about it. And now that I'm seeing this dinosaur themed picture of Petrie in the picture, dude, it's sending me. It's freaking Petri. Oh, that's terrible, huh? I'm not gonna make fun of Petri, dude. Petrie didn't shower that whole trip.
SahmHow long was the trip?
AceA week. Whole week he didn't shower. That's uh uh look, he he had he had some he had some he had some issues. He he like he's he like he's he's my age, he like still needs help doing things. He's kind of slow, so I'm not gonna clown him on any of that.
SahmBut you need a lot of help doing things too.
AceNo, I think it's messed up that my friend called him Petri. And then we've and then he found out that the kid had issues. We we might have to cut out all the Petri content, actually. No, it's fine, I'm kidding. No, we're not cutting that out. No, we're keeping it. We keep the Petri. We keep the farter, we keep the Petri. It's non-negotiable. In fact, we're gonna keep this too.
SahmRight.
AceIf
Defunct Rides: Twister, Dueling Dragons, Elsa’s Facelift
Aceyou have never been to Disney World in Orlando, but you've been to Disneyland and you have ridden Isn Indiana Jones, guess what? You've ridden Dinosaur. Same track, same system, same effects, just no dinos. I think I think you lost personally. Indiana Jones is cool, but like maybe if you're like 60 years old. I'm I'm totally kidding. Totally kidding. Indiana Jones is cool.
Sahm70 years old.
AceLet's be real though. That fourth movie does not make sense, and you're not gonna convince me that that movie makes sense. Trying to figure out the plot of that movie is like trying to navigate King's Dominion. It just it just doesn't make sense unless you are with somebody that's familiar with it.
SahmYeah, I think Hershey's harder to navigate than King's Dominion.
AceThey have a map. They got a whole GPS map.
SahmI mean, the app also has a map of King's Dominion, I still get lost, and Hershey Mark, and I still get lost.
AceIf we're gonna make theme park. Expert content, we probably shouldn't be getting lost at these parks.
SahmIt's not my fault.
AceI didn't say it was.
SahmAlso, I I never claimed to be an expert.
AceSo the weird part about that ride, dinosaur, countdown to extinction. Uh, if you weren't alive in like 2003, they made a movie of the ride. It was Disney's first attempt at a CGI only movie. It it I think commercially it flopped, but I think it has a pretty good hardcore fan base. But here we are, 2026, 23 years later, the ride's no longer a thing. The ride is, dare I say, extinct. Boo. That sucked. Get this guy out of here. So it was literally a dark ride. Like, you know, you you get on a dark ride, you see a bunch of moving scenes with animatronics. It's beautiful, except it's dark around the animatronics. So, weird premise, because you ent you you travel back in time and then you enter the dino world because you have to retrieve an original dino, which was the main character of the movie. And whole time you're getting traced. You're traced whole time you're getting chased by the Carnotaurus. I read something a long time ago that they couldn't use T-Rexes in the movie for some reason. So they used the Carnotaurus instead. Which is just a bigger, fatter, rounder shaped head of a T-Rex with some horns, if you ask me. Same little arms.
SahmWell, it probably because of the Jurassic Park stuff.
AceProbably. This was definitely a direct attempt to compete. But they just they couldn't do what Steven Spielberg can do. That's right. Amen to that. But regardless, the ride held up for the ride held up for 23 years, did a good job, but now we're now we're facing a weird problem with the park. Where now that that ride's gone, that's like one of seven rides that's not an Animal Kingdom now. That's a that's a problem. And in fact, we're dealing with that with a lot of parks in Orlando as of right now in March, early March. A lot of stuff is closed down, not working, or it's just out of season or being refurbished. There's a lot going on right now. If anybody asked me to this day, should I go to Animal Kingdom this year? No. No, don't go. Do yourself a favor and wait a couple years.
SahmI think the only park that's worth going to is like Epcot, and that's because there's like not there's like everything is like up and running.
AceDude, even Epcot is under a very heavy refurb still. Of what? There's so many construction walls around that still. Because they're like, they're redoing the entire park. Because now I might be getting this mixed up with Tomorrowland, but from what I understand, Epcot is supposed to be what the future's supposed to look like. But Epcot's looking a little modern these days, so they need to they needed to step it up a little.
SahmRight.
AceNew Test Track is there again. They have like the sixth installment of Test Track.
SahmThe ride that keeps on giving.
AceApparently.
SahmBut man.
AceUh Frozen. Frozen has Frozen had a facelift recently. Elsa had a facelift recently. That's horrible. So many little girls go to that park and go, I'm gonna ride Frozen ever after. And then they see those animatronics with the projected faces. Not anymore. So fun fact with that. They uh paraphrasing, don't quote me on this. I'm not we we never claimed we were experts. Yep. Yeah, we just talk about it. We're just we're just casual enjoyers.
SahmEnthusiasts.
AceYeah, for sure. So they made Frozen Ever After, they made the Frozen figures, the animatronics, but then with the face mounts, they put a screen, an LED screen on the face, and then animated that rather than putting a full head on it. Then in uh in the in the Tokyo location, they made that same ride. From what I heard, one of the executives from America came to see the ride. You're gonna get a kick out of this man. He saw the whole ride and went, wait, you guys got faces? And then the executive from Japan went, Yeah, you don't? So then the guy from America went back and was like, guys, we have a really serious problem here that in in Japan, they full face models, and then they all went, oh no. Took them over a decade to put faces on those animatronics, dude. They finally got them. My cat just zoomed across the room. We weren't expecting that. Oh my god. In other news, um my god, we we went over the we went over the rock and roller coaster already. Oh real quick. People are going, oh power them up, it's gonna rock the rock and roller coaster. Well, I just got one proposition for you guys. Y'all have met Animal, right?
Stop Throwing Shade Hollywood, You Don’t Want The Smoke
SahmThat's right.
AceI I think he's gonna kill it.
SahmHe will.
AceI think we're putting a lot of pressure on Animal though.
SahmHe'll be fine.
AceDude, I'm really hoping before that launch we see him going, let's go, or something before the launch. But then it's just some silly little Muppet song playing during the ride. Who knows? I'm sure they're gonna make it fun. In fact, if you ask me, it's a pretty good compromise. It's a decent compromise. They take out the Muppet Land, they're taking out the Aerosmith licensing, and they go, Alright, fine, here it's Muppet Ride. Here you go, Muppet Coaster.
SahmGod, yeah, it also just probably fits in the park better than Aerosmith at this point.
AceYeah.
SahmDo you think they're gonna play Tokyo Drift on the Fast and Furious coaster?
AceI'm wondering if they're even gonna play music.
SahmI think this is gonna be on track audio for sure.
AceDid you see the launches at the LA location?
SahmI didn't see the launches, but I've seen them track it. I've seen that them like testing the testing that's dude.
AceThe way they pivot and drift around the the like the whole the escalator in Hollywood. Oh, it's so cool. I'm I have a theory now that I don't think I'm I have a feeling that the Orlando coaster will probably stand out on its own. I don't think it's gonna top the Hollywood one. All all the people in Hollywood are going there, watching the launch, and going, man, why is Orlando getting this too? This was supposed to be our thing. And you know what I feel for them? They kind of they kind of did need their own thing. But you know what, guys? Screw you. You got Kung Fu Panda and Secret Life of Pets. That's a great ride, by the way. You're really you're not appreciating what you have, dude. We don't have that in the East Coast. Yeah, we just life Pets ride is so good.
SahmYeah, we just have Velocicoaster in Hagrid's.
AceThat's pretty good, though. And Epic.
SahmYeah, Star Tracers.
AceWe're gonna throw shade. And if you want to come to Epic, well, well, then come.
SahmNo, but they have they have their own Mario, they have their own Super Nintendo land. That's basically Epic.
AceNo, they they got they got Nintendo Land before Epic. And I will I will be the first person to tell you that the Nintendo Land in Hollywood is better in it than the one in Epic. The one in Epic is still too crowded. It's nuts.
SahmYeah.
AceI can't believe I waited three hours for bat for uh Donkey Kong last time I went. I really waited that long.
SahmYeah. I still haven't ridden it yet.
AceOh yeah. I guess you haven't.
SahmNo.
AceThere
Sahm’s Terrible Defunct List (He Barely Tried)
Acethere's so we're gonna wrap this up here by talking about some defunct rides. So Josh made me a list here of defunct rides. I thought this was fun because I wanted to see how much he would put in here.
SahmI put all of them.
AceI'm pulling it up here now and let's see.
SahmHere. What?
AceThere's something missing. What is? Take a look. So we got stuff from Epic Studios.
SahmYeah.
AceAnd we got stuff from Island.
SahmYeah.
AceBut there isn't anything from Epic in here.
SahmNo. Why not? Because it's a new park. None of the rides have been discontinued or is this a bit? Like what am I missing something here? What's going on? Am I getting punked right now? Yeah. Am I being like gasless? Is this is this the bit?
AceI'm just messing with you. Oh. He made a defunct ride list for me, and I was gonna pretend that he messed the list up by not putting epic stuff. And I was hoping he would just react by going, What what do you mean? Sorry, that was fun.
SahmYeah, for not me.
AceSo we got our we got our defunct list here. Which one should we go over first? Well, he wrote Nickelodeon.
SahmThat's because I don't know the name of the name is quite Nick Toon Blast. Yeah, Jimmy Neutron's Nick Toon Blast or something.
AceI wrote that.
SahmI didn't.
AceIt was alright. It's it's the minion ride, it's just different s different show.
SahmRight.
AceTwister is not the same as Jimmy Fallon at all. Twister, you just stood there and you watched a whole show of anime. Watched a whole effects show. It was really cool. They had a whole tornado in front of you, and then the platform behind you fell.
SahmOh.
AceLike at the end. Yeah, it would go. Like it would it fell like maybe five inches.
SahmThat was pretty sick, actually.
AceThere was like an animatronic cow that would go m that would just fly through the middle of it. My favorite fact about the Twister ride or show, Twister Ride It Out, that's what they called it. I don't know their names. Uh this is a little before me, I think. The actor and the actress that were in the movie. Can we get a fact check real quick? What were their names? Can you pull it up, Ethan? Twit Twister Cast. Yeah.
Sahm's MomBill Paxton.
AceOkay, so that's what it was. Bill Paxton and Helen Hunt. They while they co-started that whole movie, they didn't get along that entire movie. In fact, uh for the show Q, where they're both on different screens talking to each other, they filmed those scenes separately.
SahmOh, because of how much they disliked each other.
AceThat's how much they didn't like each other, yeah.
SahmThat's funny as heck.
AceI'm pretty sure they had to like kiss in the movie too, so I I can't.
SahmUgh.
AceSo we got Dueling Dragons on here.
SahmYeah. I think their official name is Dragons Adventure, I think. I didn't put their official names. I didn't put the official names for all of them. Because I was committing a lot of it to memory.
AceIt was originally Dueling Dragons, and then it was renamed a Dragon Challenge when they did it.
SahmDragon Challenge is what it was.
AceThat's when they did the Harry Potter theme. Yeah. Dueling Dragons was great because they had the near miss elements like Stardust Racers. But in one of those near misses, somebody's cell phone flew out of the pocket and hit somebody in the eye.
SahmYeah.
AceAfter that, they never launched the rides at the same time again. Eventually they cut that ride down, turned it into Hagrid's motorbike, and I wouldn't trade that for anything. Personally.
SahmAgreed.
AceOne time Halloween Horror Nights did a dueling dragons themed house where you could pick between fire and ice. That was pretty cool.
SahmWhich one did you pick?
AceI picked ice.
SahmThat's the one I would pick too.
AceYou know, I like red more, but I just went with ice. That's wild. You know what, dude? We gotta end the episode. It's been fun, guys. Thank you so much for sticking with us. It's been real. We will see you next week. I gotta I gotta call it out after that.
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